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Mayweather-Pacquiao: Who has faced the better opposition? Part 1: Floyd

The two leading fighters in the world today didn’t get to the position that they are in by facing weak opposition. Fans from both sides slam the others resume in order to establish their man as the true number one.

It seems that at this stage of their careers, fans are only interested in what’s wrong with the opponent rather than what is right. Yes there will always be ‘haters’, but it is the same haters who seem to forget just how much both fighters have achieved throughout a combined career span of 38 years. So who has fought the better opposition?

Floyd Mayweather Jr:

Floyd has won a staggering 10 world titles in 5 different weight divisions since he turned professional in 1996. He won his first world title just two years after his pro debut defeating Genaro Hernandez, whom at the time was ranked the no1 fighter in the world at super featherweight. Hernandez’ only previous loss was against the golden boy himself Oscar Dela Hoya at lightweight. Dela Hoya was younger, heavier and too much for Hernandez at lightweight knocking him out in 6 rounds. After a lay-off, Hernandez returned to super-featherweight to win the WBC world title. His defence against Floyd was unsuccessful with his corner stopping the bout in the 11th. It would be his last fight as a professional. Floyd dominated the super featherweight division and was ranked as ring magazines no7 pound for pound fighter in the world at just 22 years old.

Perhaps the biggest fight of Mayweather’s early career was against Diego Corrales. Corrales was a formidable champion and was undefeated after 33 fights with 27 KO’s. He was ranked as the no1 super featherweight in the world ahead of Mayweather at no2. Floyd dominated Corrales, dropping him three times in the 7th and twice in the 10th, becoming the first man to defeat, knockdown and knockout Corrales.

Two fights after Corrales Floyd would face Jose Luis Castillo in a fight that will never be forgotten by fans and ‘haters’ alike. Castillo was the reigning WBC lightweight champion and was on a 12 fight winning streak (ignoring 1 draw). In what turned out to be a very close fight, Floyd defeated Castillo by a unanimous decision, a decision that is still debated amongst fans today. HBO’s unofficial score card had Castillo winning the bout by 4 points (115-111) little that may mean. With speculation and uncertainty surrounding Floyd’s victory he decided to make amends and gave Castillo a rematch. Floyd won for a second time in another closely contested match-up but the result was less contested. Castillo is widely regarded as one of the best lightweights in recent times, and his fight with Corrales more than justifies that claim. If you haven’t seen it, stop what you’re doing and watch it immediately.

After the Castillo fights Floyd had his eye on the light welterweight division. Before his first fight at light welter with DeMarcus Corley in a world title eliminator, Floyd defeated the iron-fisted Philip Ndou. Although Ndou had never won a major world title he had an outstanding KO % (finished 36wins 33 KOs) and had only lost once before he was beaten by Floyd. Floyd’s first light welter fight was successful winning a UD against Corley, knocking him down in the 8th and 10th rounds. Floyd’s first major test at light welter came against the reigning WBC light welter weight champion Arturo ‘Thunder’ Gatti. Gatti was no match for the skills of Floyd as well as a strange ruling from the referee in the 1st round that gave Floyd a free shot, dropping Gatti to the floor. The tone of the fight was set and Floyd dominated Gatti until the corner stopped the fight. What might have been a tough world title fight for Floyd turned into an easy nights work.

Floyd made the move up in weight after the Gatti fight to take on IBF welter weight champion Zab Judah. This Judah however was a much better fighter than the one that we see today. Judah gave Floyd problems early on in the fight with his quickness and Southpaw stance. However Floyd adapted to Judah and out classed him to win a UD and his first world title at welter weight. Judah was of course coming off a loss to Carlos Baldomir, a fighter who would also lose to Floyd in a unification fight. Despite not having lost for almost 9 years, Baldomir was far too slow to pose any threat to Mayweather.

Mayweather became a 4 weight world champion which set up a mouth watering clash with Oscar Dela Hoya. Oscar was the current WBC light-middleweight champion meaning Floyd would challenge for yet another world title in another weight class. Floyd won by a split decision in a closely contested fight but a rematch never happened. It seems that Oscar is still bitter about the result and is desperate to see Floyd lose.

After beating Oscar, Floyd returned to Welter weight to knockout the undefeated Ricky Hatton. Thinking he had achieved enough, Floyd announced his retirement. Of course the retirement never lasted and Floyd has since gone on to defeat more world champions and maintain his undefeated status. He easily defeated Juan Manuel Marquez in a fight that was perhaps less than memorable and will not tarnish Marques’ own legacy. The size difference was too great for Juan and his style is all wrong for Floyd.

This article is trying to highlight Floyd’s past and why it should never be forgotten as well as his more recent fights which seem to receive mass criticism. Here is lists of what I would say are Floyd’s most impressive victories:

Genaro Hernandez

Diego Corrales

Jose Luis Castillo

Arturo Gatti

Zab Judah

Carlos Baldomir

Oscar Dela Hoya

Ricky Hatton



(Post retirement)

Shane Mosley

Miguel Cotto

Saul Alvarez

Marcos Maidana

Floyd’s more recent fights can be debated as to whether or not they warrant a place on his most memorable victories. Shane Mosley was coming off a knockout victory over Antonio Margarito. Regardless of the circumstances that Margarito was involved with illegal hand wraps before the fight, it was still an impressive victory. Mosley also troubled Floyd early in the fight, meaning Floyd had to adapt and did so very well. However, Mosley’s best years were indeed behind him. Miguel Cotto had never lost at 154 pounds and was the reigning WBC light-middleweight champion after a career best victory avenging his loss to Margarito. Cotto fought well but was ultimately out classed in efficient fashion by Floyd.

Saul Alvarez is perhaps Floyd’s best victory since his retirement. The fact that the PPV buys were so high (second highest of all time) speaks for itself. Many people believed that Alvarez had a very real chance of defeating Floyd due to his size. However the result could not have been more different. Floyd nullified Alvarez’ advantages and totally bamboozled him in the process in the eyes of boxing fans. The hideous drawn score card presented by C J Ross has no place in proper officiating. Alvarez was an undefeated world champion coming off the biggest win of his career but was no match for the skills of Floyd. Maidana was coming off his career best performance annihilating loud mouth Adrien Broner over 12 rounds. Maidana proved he was a strong welter weight in that fight and even more so in the first fight with Floyd. He pushed Floyd harder than anyone had done since his retirement but came up short. After a close first fight, there was demand for a second (unless Pacquiao could happen) and Floyd defeated a prime Marcos more convincingly.

Victor Ortiz, although a world champion when he faced Floyd, is not at the level of Floyds best opponents and the same can be said for Robert Guerrero.

As mentioned at the beginning of this article, fans of the sport focus too much on what is bad about Floyd’s next opponent rather than what is difficult. Floyd is 24-0 in world title fights. All fighters pose a threat, and the opposition Floyd has faced throughout his entire career is the reason he is still the pound for pound best fighter in the world.

Part 2 will analyze Manny Pacquiao’s opponents throughout the entirety of his career.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Which fighter has fought better opposition? Part 2: Manny

Manny Pacquiao – Like his rival, Pacquiao has won 10 world titles in an astonishing 8 weight division. He is the first and only boxer in history to have won world titles in 8 weight classes. He turned professional in 1995 when he was just 16 years old, 4ft 11 and weighed in at 98 pounds (light flyweight).

Throughout his very early career Manny fought in the Philippines in small venues. After an 11 fight winning streak he suffered his first loss, knockdown and knockout of his career losing in the 3rd round to Rustico Torrecampo.

After the Torrecampo defeat Manny went on a 14 fight winning streak 12 by way of KO/TKO before he earned his first shot at a world title at flyweight. He defeated Chatchai Sasakul by a 8th round stoppage to capture the WBC title. Manny lost his title in a defence against the undefeated Medgoen Singsurat.

Regardless of the result Manny would not be able to retain his title after failing to make weight. After that defeat Manny made the move up in weight to the super bantamweight division. He won the IBF international title and after 5 consecutive victories Manny had a chance to win a second world title in a different weight division. It would be his first fight in Vegas against Lehlo Ledwaba. Manny captured the IBF super bantamweight title winning by a 6th round TKO. Ledwaba had only lost once in his early career and had defended his IBF title 5 times. Manny’s next bout was a unification fight for the IBF and the WBO super-bantamweight titles against Agapito Sanchez. Sanchez had lost to both Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manual Marquez in his earlier career before the Pacquiao match up. The fight ended a technical draw due to a cut over Manny’s eye. Manny continued his career as the IBF champion and after 4 more defences he would move up another weight class to the featherweight division. His first fight at featherweight weight was against modern great Marco Antonio Barrera.

Barrera was without question the biggest fight of Pacquiao’s career. He hadn’t lost a fight since his defeat to Mexican rival Erik Morales, a modern great himself. Barrera was a 4 time world champion in 2 different weight divisions and was on an impressive winning streak. He had beaten Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales in a rematch for the WBC featherweight title, Johnny Tapia and Kevin Kelly. Manny stopped Barrera by an 11th round TKO, arguable his best victory of his career. Barrera had never previously been stopped.After Barrera Manny faced long time rival Juan Manual Marques for the first time. Marques held both the WBA and IBF featherweight titles and the fight did not disappoint. The fight was action packed throughout. Marques touched the canvas 3 times in the first round but after a shaky start fought his was right back into the fight. The judges scored the fight a draw however 2 had Marques winning more rounds. The knockdowns proved crucial for Manny. After that fight a true rivalry was born.

Manny had reached the elite level and there was no going back. Just one fight after Marques and two since Barrera Manny would face Eric Morales in the super featherweight division. It was the 4th division Manny had competed at. He lost to Morales by a UD in yet another exhilarating fight. Morales, a three division world champion was hailed as a Mexican legend alongside Barrera. The scorecards all read 115-113. After his 3rd defeat of his career, Manny bounced back to stop Hector Velazquez. At the same time Morales fought and lost to Zahir Raheem however a rematch with Manny went ahead. This time Manny proved to be too strong for Morales winning by a 10th round TKO. Manny became the first man to knock Erik Morales out. One fight later, Manny finished any dispute between the pair knocking Morales out for a 2nd time in just 3 rounds.It was the beginning of Manny’s exceptional run of victories that saw him climb to the top of the pound for pound list in Floyd’s absence. A rematch with Barrera saw Manny defeat him for the second time by a UD. After two rematches within 3 fights, Manny faced Juan Manuel Marques in another rematch which saw him win a split decision and claim the WBC super featherweight title. Like the first one the fight was extremely close and is still disputed today. After the victory and another world title in another weight division Manny yet again went up in weight.

As he climbed up the weights Manny was drawing more and more attention. He annihilated David Diaz by a 9th round TKO in his first fight at lightweight to claim the WBC lightweight title. Diaz had lost just one fight against Kendall Holt previously. He had beaten Erik Morales to claim the title. Not surprisingly Morales announced his retirement after the bout. Rather than stay at lightweight Manny again moved up the welterweight division to face the Golden Boy Oscar Dela Hoya in a blockbuster in Vegas. Manny continued to show his ruthlessness and beat Dela Hoya at will until the fight was stopped by the corner in the 8th. Manny Pacqiuao had arrived at welter weight. As impressive as the performance was Dela Hoya looked desperately weight drained and far too weak to compete with anybody at the top level let alone Pacquiao.

A past his best Dela Hoya was perhaps not enough to suggest that Manny could hang with the top welterweights in the world. His next fight was against the tough Ricky Hatton who’s only loss came at the hands of Floyd Mayweather. Manny destroyed Hatton knocking him out in just 2 rounds and shocked the boxing world. He may have been tipped to win, but nobody expected him to do so easily. Manny had become a major player in the welterweight division and the demand for a fight with Floyd Mayweather had come to life.

Manny fought for the WBO welterweight title against Miguel Cotto in a fight that many were struggling to predict. Cotto had only been beaten once and was a much bigger man than Manny naturally. In blistering fashion Manny knocked Cotto down twice before the referee halted the bout in the 12th. Although not Cotto’s favoured weight division, the performance of Manny cannot be denied. He showed a ruthless instinct to finish Cotto and blistering hand speed that would trouble any fighter in the world. His status as the pound for pound number one was being justified.Manny’s last remarkable performance came against Antonio Margarito for the WBC light middleweight title in the Dallas Cowboys stadium. Regardless of whether or not Margarito was as good as he once was Manny dazzled. The hand speed, power and footwork could simply not be ignored as he out boxed and out fought a much bigger opponent. Manny captured yet another world title in another weight division.

Post Margarito Manny’s stock has indeed dropped. He hasn’t had a KO victory since Miguel Cotto and some believe he is on the decline. Manny’s next major fight came against Marques in a 3rd fight between the two. Manny was awarded the victory in yet another razor close fight. Many fans believe Manny was gifted the decision but they miss understand the difference between a robbery and a close fight. The 4TH fight with Marques would have to wait as the undefeated Timothy Bradley had earned his shot at Manny. In what was tipped to be a close intriguing fight, one that would define Bradley in particular, ended in controversy. Manny dominated the fight until the late rounds where he seemed to stop working. Bradley was awarded the split decision victory. The controversial ending allowed for a Pacquiao Marques 4th to take place. In what was Manny’s most exciting fight since Margarito, Marquez won by a 6th round KO, knocking Manny out cold with a sensational right hand.

Since the defeat, Manny has bounced back with victories over the flat-footed Brandon Rios, Timothy Bradley and the unbeaten Chris Algieri. The most significant victory of the 3 is without question Timothy Bradley. Bradley was an undefeated champion coming off of wins over Ruslan Provodnikov and Juan Manuel Marquez. He is one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world but, for a second time, was no match for Manny. Manny out worked Bradley to earn an impressive victory.

Like Floyd Manny Pacquiao has achieved unimaginable things since his long career began. This article has tried to highlight the best moments of a long career that fans should appreciate in all its glory. Here is the final list of what I see to be Manny’s best victories:

Lehlo Ledwaba

Marco Antonio Barrera

Erik Morales

Juan Manuel Marques

David Diaz

Ricky Hatton

Miguel Cotto

Antonio Margarito

Timothy Bradley

Shane Mosley does not make this list as I believe he had no real interest in trying to defeat Manny. He was way past his best and his last hoorah was in the early parts of the fight with Floyd. Both fighters were too busy trying to be friends rather than fight. Manny dropped Mosley early but failed to follow it up. It was a fight that is better off forgotten by both fighters. Joshua Clotty, although underrated and a good fighter, does not warrant a place on Manny’s most memorable wins.

What makes Manny’s list special is the way in which he went about getting those wins. He was the first man ever to stop Barrera who was on a terrific run of wins himself. He was the first man to knock out Erik Morales. He destroyed both Diaz and Hatton in astonishing fashion that cannot be denied. He easily beat both Margarito and Cotto but of course Cotto was not at his favoured weight. He was however when he fought Floyd.The two fighters that may have troubled Floyd in his earlier career would likely have been Barrera and Morales. Likewise Corrales and Castillo may have troubled Pacquiao. Of course there are debates but neither side can truly argue against the other ones record. They have both achieved so much throughout their careers and have fought a variety of champions. A loss does not define an entire career. Highlighting that Manny has 5 losses is not enough to suggest he does not belong with Floyd. Zab Judah was coming off a loss and Floyd chose to fight him so that excuse is invalid.

The lists will of course be subject to criticisms but for the final word I believe Floyd’s list has the greater opposition but the manner in which Manny defeated truly great fighters goes beyond that of Floyd.

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Hairon Socarras is a 5'6 21 year old Super Bantamweight with a 14-0 10 KO's record. Born in Marianao, Cuba and currently fighting out of where else Miami, Florida. He's a talented young prospect who didn't have as long of an amateur career in Cuba as many of his fellow countrymen since he arrived in the States at the age of 11, but even then he'd fought 75 of his 180 Amateur matches in Cuba where he was Provincial Champion at the age of 10 and 11. In the United States, he was a Florida State Champion 4 times, 2 time Silver Gloves Champion, and Golden Gloves Champion. He's currently being trained by Jorge Rubio in Miami. So Check Out El Maja This Rigo Gamboa Hybrid May become a Force to be Reckoned with.

Alcides Sagarra

A juzgar por sus resultados, este hombre nacido el 18 de agoto de 1936 en Santiago de Cuba es el entrenador de boxeo amateur más exitoso de todos los tiempos. Se convirtió en entrenador nacional de Cuba a principios de los 60 y bajo su tutela el boxeo de la isla evolucionó en uno de increíble técnica para pasar a ser el más dominante en competencias internacionales amateurs durante décadas, incluyendo los tricampeonatos olímpicos de Teófilo Stevenson y Félix Savón, un récord. En total, formó o ayudó a formar a 30 campeones olímpicos, 48 campeones mundiales aficionados y otros tantos monarcas juveniles, y los títulos internacionales acumulados por sus boxeadores se cuentan por cientos. Hombre de enorme legado deportivo y educativo en su país, Sagarra dejó el cargo de entrenador nacional de boxeo en 2001.

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Alcides Sagarra

A juzgar por sus resultados, este hombre nacido el 18 de agoto de 1936 en Santiago de Cuba es el entrenador de boxeo amateur más exitoso de todos los tiempos. Se convirtió en entrenador nacional de Cuba a principios de los 60 y bajo su tutela el boxeo de la isla evolucionó en uno de increíble técnica para pasar a ser el más dominante en competencias internacionales amateurs durante décadas, incluyendo los tricampeonatos olímpicos de Teófilo Stevenson y Félix Savón, un récord. En total, formó o ayudó a formar a 30 campeones olímpicos, 48 campeones mundiales aficionados y otros tantos monarcas juveniles, y los títulos internacionales acumulados por sus boxeadores se cuentan por cientos. Hombre de enorme legado deportivo y educativo en su país, Sagarra dejó el cargo de entrenador nacional de boxeo en 2001.

es tambien muy controversial,a su lado trabajaban muchos que hicieron tanto o mas,pero ni se les menciona,el ha tomado todos los creditos.

bueno amigos,disculpenme si parezco fanatico o nacionalista al traer este combate,no creo ser lo uno ni lo otro,pero reconozco ser un enamorado del buen boxeo.
espero disfruten esta gran pelea,reciban un saludo cordial.

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Naoya Inoue 井上 尚弥, is a 21 year old 5'4 Light Flyweight with a 8-0 7 KO's record. Inoue was born in Zama, Kanagawa, Japan and is fighting out of Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan. He fights out of the famous Ohashi Boxing Gym in Yokohama run by Hideyuki Ohashi. This little guy is incredibly exciting to watch and in my opinion and many others "the one to watch". He's a vicious puncher with brutal power The Monster although he looks like a Ladyboy is mean as hell. Already in his short career he's captured the WBC Light Flyweight title from Adrian Hernandez and completely annihilated Super Flyweight division stalwart and legend Omar Narvaez in 2 best Donaire who Narvaez went the distance with and won his WBO Super Flyweight Title. Inoue is now rightfully a pound for pound player who should be scratching at the door of the top 10, who should be taking on the kingpin of the flys Roman Gonzalez eventually, and of course he's the recent winner of IB's 2014 Fighter of the Year on ESB. The Monster Inoue is a Beast among Flys, Bow Before Him or He will Make You.